Oerlis:Keninkryk Fryslân: ferskil tusken ferzjes

Content deleted Content added
No edit summary
No edit summary
Rigel 16:
 
:::Dear [[Meidogger:Kening Aldgilles|Kening Aldgilles]]. I am a strong supporter of a nice atmosphere in any wikipedia. I told you, why I removed the map. And I still think that I did it right. I still thing that Cologne/ Keulen never was part of the frisian empire, what ever this was. I know that there are numerous books about the frisian history and that there exist much more in West-Frisia cause we Frisians in Germany aren't that strong and it's hard to finance research in this field. But i have numerous books and [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Ostfriesland/Literatur here] we have listet some of them to share literature. In the books i have read that it was written that the early frisisan kings had very little power and authority and only sometimes all frisians did something together. You are right, when you say that can not give 100% accuracy about borders in that time. But for me i have the biggest problem with the map when it declares regions to the frisian empire like the way to Cologne/ Keulen and the city too who were occupied for just a very little time. In your map it looks like that this was for the years from 716 to 719. I guess it wasn't that long, that the frisians had the power in this regions. You are right that the events are the same I described in the article about the Battle at the Boarn but i guess we came to a different evaluation of the significance. Thats it. I didn't want to attack you but I tried to explain why I removed the map and you told me why you think, that this map is ok. There are a lot of people who support you here and in the german wikipedia we came to another solution. For me this is ok. If the majority here doesn't agree this will not be an armageddon to me. Eala Frya Fresena [[Meidogger:Matthias Süßen|Matthias Süßen]] 13 sep 2009, 12.56 (CEST)
 
::::I get the point. This map only shows Frisian expansion. I think it is good to try and make a description of the power of the Frisian kings. I also think it is good to make newer/better map. Till then, I would say we keep the old stuff. Never throw away old shoes before you have new ones. In the wiki-project Ost-Friesland, there are several people who are able to make those maps. I think its a good idea. Greetz --[[Meidogger:Kening Aldgilles|Kening Aldgilles]] 3 okt 2009, 12.38 (CEST)
Werom nei de side "Keninkryk Fryslân".