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:::Ok. Best regards. --[[Meidogger:Holder|Holder]] ([[Meidogger oerlis:Holder|oerlis]]) 13 apr 2018, 21.54 (CEST)
::::Sorry man, I shouldn't have reacted like this. Should've cooled down first. Anyway, I accept your apologies and I hope there are no hard feelings from your side. [[Meidogger:Ieneach fan 'e Esk|Ieneach fan 'e Esk]] ([[Meidogger oerlis:Ieneach fan 'e Esk|oerlis]]) 13 apr 2018, 23.07 (CEST)
: @[[User:Ieneach fan 'e Esk]] and [[User:Mysha]]: The [[m:User:MF-Warburg/Decker|vandal in question]] typically creates stub articles for years, numbers, or letters (Ă, ų, etc.), merely to push wikis past milestones that are regularly announced at [[m:Wikimedia News]]. The text is always copied, sometimes with little or no changes, from a similar page that already exists, meaning that the resulting pages almost always have errors in them that are hard to spot by users who do not know the language of the wiki. All pages created by known globally blocked/banned users, regardless of their quality, regularly get deleted because there is a policy (as far as I know) that globally blocked/banned users should be unable to edit even under IP addresses (since that is a method that allows them to easily circumvent their block/ban). (In this case, it may have only been a "suspicion" that it was that user, or perhaps the specific IP address was sufficient evidence to "know" it was the same user. Holder can explain his own reasoning.) As for whether this should be done on wikis with local admins, you would have to take that up with the stewards who do the deleting, which you have already done here. Note, though, that there are several stewards who do such work, so just asking one to not do it in the future won't necessarily prevent others from doing so. Holder might have suggestions about how best to warn off stewards in the future. One way to proceed (assuming you can't control the behavior of every steward, and given that this is based on a longstanding policy about cross-wiki vandals) is to make an actual edit to ''all'' of the pages in question, so that a logged-in user appears in the edit history of every page. As I understand things, the stewards should not delete such pages (although they still may neglect to check the page history and delete the pages anyway — perhaps Holder could weigh in on this). Of course, if the original pages were created by a logged-in user, none of this applies, unless it were shown that the user was a sockpuppet of a banned user. Again, the policy in that case (AFAIK) is to delete the pages unless (?) some other local user has edited the pages in the meantime. I assume the changes you made were visible only at Wikidata and not in the page history? But more importantly, isn't there a bot that adds new items (and new language links for existing items) at Wikidata without any user intervention? So maybe your efforts were not necessary in the first place? (Not sure about that, as I don't hang around Wikidata that much. Holder?) If that is the case, then you can create the articles again ("relatively easily") and then let the bot add the items to Wikidata for you. You might need to provide at least one interwiki link (to a wiki with an equivalent existing page — say, at the English Wikipedia) for the bot to go on, or maybe not. Holder, do you know? - [[Meidogger:Dcljr|dcljr]] ([[Meidogger oerlis:Dcljr|oerlis]]) 13 apr 2018, 23.33 (CEST)
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