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Mysha (oerlis | bydragen)
I'm trying to find where the problem lies.
Dcljr (oerlis | bydragen)
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:::: Thanks Dcljr for the explanation. The problem we encounter here is that, as you say, pages of the hunted type almost always have errors in them that are hard to spot by users who do not know the language of the wiki. So, basically, as the stewards couldn't see whether these pages were OK, they were deleted. Sounds like guilty until proven innocent to me.
:::: Editing all such pages is probably not a solution, as it would require knowing which pages are such pages to begin with. It would also waste lot of time. Basically, stewards taking over fjildwacht-duty is a time-saving system for small wikipedias, where time-waste hits hardest. Here it turns into its opposite, which suggests there's is something wrong with the implementation of the system. (Editing such pages also may not work, in the sense that adding a delete template and undoing the edit as a user was not enough to keep those pages.) How many pages are we talking about, on average? Would it more sense for stewards to merely note such occurrences, and use a special English language section on [[Wikipedy:Siden wiskje]] to warn behearders to take a look? It would seem that that is the part missing from this system of stewards saving time for smaller wikis. [[Meidogger:Mysha|Mysha]] ([[Meidogger oerlis:Mysha|oerlis]])
::::: The number of pages typically created by this particular banned user can be anywhere from 1 to 1000s, whatever is necessary to push a wiki over the next "reportable" article-count milestone. (I'm sure he also creates pages in other situations sometimes, but causing a milestone is how I find out about it.) I don't know if Holder found out about this because of the milestone or because of the IP addresses that were used. Presumably it wasn't my tagging of the pages, since those templates were removed well before the pages were deleted. In any case, like I said, Holder is the one who knows for sure why the pages were deleted. If he doesn't comment here soon, you should ask [[als:Benutzer Diskussion:Holder|at his "home" talk page]]. And, like I said, many other stewards are involved in this sort of thing, so you might also consider posting at [[m:Stewards' noticeboard]] (I think that's the best place to discuss this issue with the "steward community"). (And, by the way, this isn't really about "saving time" so much as keeping banned users from circumventing their ban.) - [[Meidogger:Dcljr|dcljr]] ([[Meidogger oerlis:Dcljr|oerlis]]) 17 apr 2018, 07.07 (CEST)